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  • 2044 Jaguars: Draft Class

    Went 6-10 in 2043 as we struggled to stay consistent with a new quarterback under center and breaking our rookie QB Fields in. I got the team some help on both sides of the ball in FA with Sankey at RB and Rash at SLB. This draft was all about adding players to complement those play-makers and get us back to winning quickly!


    [2-11] Eli Peltier - WR
    School: Northwestern
    Height: 6' 2"
    Weight:219 lbs.
    Big smooth route-runner with soft hands and endurance will be groomed behind Gloves Gibson as our an 'X' receiver

    Role: SE2


    [3-10] Daquan Montgomery, DB
    School: Grambling State
    Height: 5' 10" (Below Average)
    Weight: 183 lbs. (Way Below Average)

    Hopefully drafted our nickel corner + kick returner

    Role: Nickel/Dime/Return

    [4-09] Tre Johnstone, DE
    School: California
    Height: 6' 4" (Average)
    Weight: 277 lbs. (Average)

    Needed a pass-rusher who offered something vs run. While lacking in brute strength, Tre should have enough moves to continually affect the passer in our 34 fronts and sub-packages

    Role: LEO/Edge-Rusher



    [5-08] Al Altenburger, LB
    School: West Virginia
    Height: 6' 2"
    Weight: 254 lbs.

    Got a beast of a veteran in Rash to man the strong side and Altenburger should line up right next to him as our new inside-backer.

    Role: SILB - LB1



    [6-12] Abraham Lincoln, LEO
    School: Wake Forest
    Height: 6' 5"
    Weight: 266 lbs.

    Role: LEO/Edge-Rusher

    Well you know I had to do it -- every draft I try to find me a rush specialist, sometimes I mess around and get lucky (Tremendus Fightmaster, DFL anyone?) but most times, I get a lump of coal. This may be my biggest lump ever as Abe is HUGE for a WLB (T. Suggs in this b!tch???) . Gotta wonder if he can convert to RE too considering that size.


    [7.11] Justin Inouye, FL
    School: Iowa State
    Height: 5' 10" (Below Average)
    Weight: 189 lbs. (Way Below Average)

    Role: Slot Receiver

    The ubiquitous quest for a that chain-moving slot receiver has turned-up the Cyclones' Justin Inouye-- quick little route-runner with some 3rd down skills. He could be a nice upgrade to our slot receiver position if that route-running bar holds.
    Last edited by Caldwell; 07-10-2015, 11:09 PM.

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    Very cool

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    • #3
      Well the only one who looks good is Eli Peltier which means he'll bust and all the others will be mediocre backups

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      • #4
        Interesting -- Lincoln retains 94% of his ratings if I convert him to DE

        I need a veteran to advise here. The 22 bench rating is rather low for a DE but that 40 time could yield me a 70+ pass rush rating. Also on the test switch to DE he is (17/34) vs (9/23) as LB

        What would you do???

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        • #5
          That's a switch I've never made myself but 94% sounds promising, if his height and weight fit the position too.

          I guess it's worth a shot for a guy taken in the 6th, if you can get a decent role player out of the switch then go for it?
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Caldwell View Post
            Interesting -- Lincoln retains 94% of his ratings if I convert him to DE

            I need a veteran to advise here. The 22 bench rating is rather low for a DE but that 40 time could yield me a 70+ pass rush rating. Also on the test switch to DE he is (17/34) vs (9/23) as LB

            What would you do???
            I don't pay much attention to combine ratings when deciding on a position switch. If you like his bars and at 94%. I'd go for it.

            I once moved an all-pro OLB (rated 70-ish, weight = 271) to DE. It took a year of adjustment, but in his 2nd year at DE he made the pro-bowl again with 16 sacks and a PRPct of 9.3.
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            • #7
              Oh my, the dude himself weighs in on it

              Much appreciated. No attn to the ratings or the actual scores in each drill; just making sure I understand you as I'm used to combine rating meaning the combine score a player gets assigned in Draft Analyzer. If you mean you ignore the scores themselves, does that mean that I can't count on that 4.63 turning into a nice PT bar OR the 22 bench meaning he'll have very very low to no PS/PH bars.

              I tried this before but the guy barely had the weight to be DE and he's pretty meh now whereas ole abe is in the range of your player.

              I think I'm gonna do it but it's hard to kill this visual of all that size coming from the WLB position.

              Thx for chiming in Dawg'

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              • #8
                Originally posted by davehibb View Post
                That's a switch I've never made myself but 94% sounds promising, if his height and weight fit the position too.

                I guess it's worth a shot for a guy taken in the 6th, if you can get a decent role player out of the switch then go for it?

                Thx

                I'm going to strongly consider it...I think the DE I got in the 4th might be ok enough that if this fails, it's 6th rounder. And to be honest (ha), I saw him a DE the whole time BUT once you're looking at a huge LB on your roster, it's hard to switch him.

                That (9/23) vs (17/34) was already swaying me.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Caldwell View Post
                  Oh my, the dude himself weighs in on it

                  Much appreciated. No attn to the ratings or the actual scores in each drill; just making sure I understand you as I'm used to combine rating meaning the combine score a player gets assigned in Draft Analyzer. If you mean you ignore the scores themselves, does that mean that I can't count on that 4.63 turning into a nice PT bar OR the 22 bench meaning he'll have very very low to no PS/PH bars.

                  I tried this before but the guy barely had the weight to be DE and he's pretty meh now whereas ole abe is in the range of your player.

                  I think I'm gonna do it but it's hard to kill this visual of all that size coming from the WLB position.

                  Thx for chiming in Dawg'
                  First, to clarify, I certainly pay attention to combines while drafting. But specifically regarding a position switch, I do a "test" switch and put more weight on how the bars look after the switch.

                  The challenge with combines is that the ratings are variable and fall within constraint ranges. Lincoln's 4.63 40 could be better (if he had a bad day at the combines) or worse. Of course, when relying more of the bars during a position switch, good scouts are important. And your DC is top notch.

                  The other tip you could try is to make the position switch, then go to the trade information screen. Right click on the player to get an idea how the red-green bars look.
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                  • #10




                    Here's Abe on the test switch. PS is a static bar and it's sitting at 53 which looks promising to me. But how with that low bench score -- I guess that's the part that's freaking me out.
                    Last edited by Caldwell; 07-13-2015, 02:05 AM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Caldwell View Post




                      Here's Abe on the test switch. PS is a static bar and it's sitting at 53 which looks promising to me. But how with that low bench score -- I guess that's the part that's freaking me out.
                      Yeah, interesting that he's got decent static PRS & PH bars if his combine score doesn't correlate to them being that good. Perhaps it's an indicator that he's a little underrated across the board?
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                      • #12
                        We shall see

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                        • #13
                          Let's assume Lincoln's in-game, hidden rating for PRS is 500. That should be reasonable given a bar of 53. If Malcpow's analysis still applies to FOF7 (and the prevailing thinking is that the theories still work, but the constraints may have changed somewhat), then Lincoln's bench press combine could range between 21 and 33 (i.e., the combine should be higher).
                          Last edited by Dawgfan19; 07-13-2015, 08:09 AM.
                          Franchise Bowl Champions 2030, 2038, 2041, 2043, 2045-2048, 2050, 2053, 2057-2059, 2061, 2063
                          AC Champions 2031, 2032, 2040, 2044, 2049, 2051-2052, 2062
                          AC East Champions 2030-2032, 2036, 2038, 2040-2044, 2046-2063
                          Regular Season Record: 436-105-3
                          Post Season Record: 68-18

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                          • #14
                            Thanks Dawgfan -- hadn't considered that aspect. I'm all in on the switch now. At least I'll have something to ***** about if it blows up

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                            • #15
                              WR Eli Peltier = please don't bust!!!

                              DE Abe Lincoln = converted 'ok'; looks good enough to bounce my 4th rounder from last season off the roster.

                              WR3 Inouye = ***I'm testing something*** and it looks like a FAIL right now

                              ***UDFA RB Chad Minnich*** - Spotted him late in FA; Eddy Lacy like size hitting the roster at 6-1", 242 lbs. Looks good after TC. Who doesn't like a power-back?


                              PLAYER TO WATCH:

                              2nd year - RT Marcus Leska - b/c I think my staff will get that pass protection bar to develop (7.49 agility)

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