So...You think WRs arent Important in the Real NFL?

[Red Zone]

Many People have commented over and over about how the Big Play Receiving Bar makes WRs way too important in FOF.
Now Im not saying I disagree, its a bar that has had too much impact on the game for too long, and Hopefully Jim fixes that in the new game....BUT...

Take a Look at The NFL Atlanta Falcons
Roddy White has been banged up almost all season and has missed a lot of games
Julio Jones is out for the season
and this team has fallen apart
Atlanta is now 2-7 after going 13-3 last season. You can point to other changes in the teams roster...But in My Opinion...none of those has had anything close to the impact the loss of their WRs has had.

My Point is that WRs are a big part of ANY pass Offense, The NFL is a Passing League, and FOF has mirroed this pretty well...all things considered. Now its been taken to extremes with some pretty ordinary WRs having only 1 bar thats any good making bigger impacts than they probably should...but the only alternative to that would have been to make sure that more stud WRs hit every seasons draft class.
Otherwise, we wouldnt have been even close to simulating the "Real NFL" as far as the passing game goes.
Its clear that even Good NFL QBs...need Good WRs to be effective, and the same is true of FOF QBs.

On the flip side, Andy Dalton looked Horrible in Todays game vs the Ravens, yet actually got them into Overtime on a fluke play
Having a stud WR like AJ Green didnt help him much

I guess my Point is that you need Both...one isnt THAT much more important than the other
Hopefully Jim has found a way to make that work in the new game

[Sharkn20]

Oh I really think the importance about a good QBs and WRs balance but also are important a nice OL (For example the same Falcons, or thelast year of Reid in Philly... Without a nice OLs you can develop nothing in offense) Itīs my thinking, I am building around a great OL in the OSFL and GEFL2 and the results are good but not nice at this moment!

[Bill Walsh]

Well feel sorry for me, as many of you know I am a Raider, we have a QB who can only pass if he is running for his life, an OL that would let a double decker bus come through the holes we leave and recievers who have hands made of stone.

PS we still beat the Steelers though

[Dawgfan19]

Another example is Tom Brady. His stats are rather pedestrian this year without decent WRs. Hopefully the idea for the new FOF game is to tone down the importance of the BPR bar but elite WRs will still have a significant impact.

[Bill Walsh]

I think what annoys me is that a guy with 80+ BPR and 20 on every other bar can be a huge player in FOF. In real life this guy would be a Darrius Heyward Bey, fast as hell but not very good. DHB had 140 receptions and 11 TD's at the start of this season, thats 4 years worth of football. In FOF he'd have had about 250+ receptions and getting close to 40 TD's which beats the point of having all the other bars on a WR.

I have no problem with the likes of Dustin Bishop (Buccs) getting 10 receptions, 150+ yards and 2 scores against me because that's what you expect because he is the Calvin Johnson of the FFL. All Bars just below or above 80. I don't think anyone has a problem with that.

[aston2171]

80 BPR and lesser other bars (higher than 20, even; I mean his GD is still 44) is basically exactly WR Brian Downs, currently on Philadelphia and with 5200 yards in 13 seasons, most of them in New England.

Who's Jerome Simpson to go for 7-140?


Who's DeAndre Hopkins to go 7-117-1?


Who's Cecil Shorts to go 8-143?


Who's Kenbrell Thompkins to go 6-127-1?


Who's Vincent Brown to go 7-117?


Who's Keenan Allen to go 9-107-1?


Who's Harry Douglas to go 7-149-1?


Who's Marvin Jones to go 8-122?


Who's Riley Cooper to go 5-139-3?


Who's Jarrett Boykin to go 8-112, from Seneca Wallace and Scott Tolzien no less?

Not only does this happen in the NFL, this happens weekly. I just picked one guy from every week so far this year.

Real life is unpredictable. In FOF, we see numbers on all of our players' bars and too much get into thinking, "It's BS that this superstar could ever do poorly against so-and-so" or "How can that POS receiver be doing this to my team, I have good players!"

I agree that it's too bad there is a bar that's too overpowered, but whatever the change, we still need to ultimately result in a suitably small pool of top-level talent such that it is difficult to achieve a dominant passing game, since passing is what wins in both FOF & the NFL.

...which is what we have now.

[aston2171]

Here are some stats I pulled from the NFL12, NFL11, CFL32, and FFL36:

NFL 2012

completions: 339 avg / 445 max / 259 min / 50.2 STD
attempts: 555.9 avg / 740 max / 405 min / 73.9 STD
pct % : 60.9 avg / 68.6 max / 54.0 min / 3.99 STD
yards: 3474.8 avg / 4831 max / 2518 min / 640.7 STD
ypa: 6.24 avg / 7.4 max / 4.5 min / 0.69 STD

NFL 2011

completions: 327 avg / 472 max / 217 min / 52.1 STD
attempts: 554.1 avg / 666 max / 429 min / 56.1 STD
pct % : 59.9 avg / 71.3 max / 50.6 min / 4.46 STD
yards: 3916.7 avg / 5495 max / 2533 min / 734.4 STD
ypa: 7.17 avg / 9.3 max / 5.4 min / 0.89 STD

FFL 2036

completions: 317.56 avg / 400 max / 218 min / 41.3 STD
attempts: 547.3 avg / 707 max / 394 min / 62.1 STD
pct % : 58.0 avg / 64.3 max / 52.1 min / 3.28 STD
yards: 3524.6 avg / 4506 max / 2265 min / 497.6 STD
ypa: 6.45 avg / 8.08 max / 5.29 min / 0.67 STD

CFL 2032

completions: 306.9 avg / 384 max / 254 min / 37.8 STD
attempts: 535.0 avg / 652 max / 435 min / 58.0 STD
pct % : 57.4 avg / 64.1 max / 50 min / 3.79 STD
yards: 3745.4 avg / 4881 max / 2706 min / 531.6 STD
ypa: 7.04 avg / 9.59 max / 5.21 min / 0.98 STD

[Bill Walsh]

Shurg

[BazookaJohnny]

I think it is worth noting that for many of those WRs they had relatively few explosive games. It should be that WRs with such a high BPR can potentially go nuts if they get a favorable match-up or if they happen to get open on a rare occasion and hold onto the pass. A very fluky yet potentially explosive player would frustrate owners much as it does fantasy owners.